Chocolate Church – The Podcast

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Episode 1: Mutual Aid as a Way of Life—with Zev Friedman

In this episode, I interview Zev Friedman, a resident of Earthaven Ecovillage and the founder and creative director of Co-operate WNC. Listen in as we discuss how Americans of European ancestry have lost our indigeneity and how we can (slowly) reclaim it; creating cultural capacity vs. striving for purity; regenerative and relational economics; holistic carbon accounting; disaster cooperativism; judicious deindustrialization; how to transform kudzu from problem to solution; tribal constellations vs. the nuclear family; conflict as a gateway to growth; why the best-laid permaculture plans often fail; and the genius of the regional scale.

Episode 2: Inside Biosphere X—with Acre Qiu (Part 1)

In this two-part conversation, I talk with Acre Qiu—of Biosphere X and Newburgh, New York—about urban homesteading, preparing for the next mass movement, statism, the Dunbar number, hypernormalization in Russia and China, omnigamy, what’s missing from modern life, the dangers inherent in participating in getting what you need to survive (and thrive), temporary hierarchy, keeping guinea pigs, financial independence, gaining sovereignty over one’s time, and the joys and hazards of building a tribe.

Episode 3: Inside Biosphere X—with Acre Qiu (Part 2)

Episode 4: Post-Cult Thrival—with Gerette Buglion

In this episode, I talk with Gerette Buglion, author of An Everyday Cult and co-creator of #igotout, about the number one cult myth, the cult of Trump, the patterns common to how cult members claim their freedom, writing as a form of reckoning, how it feels to step into heresy, and how cult dynamics play out in the wider world.

Episode 5: From the Anthropocene to the Ecozoic—with Cara Judea Alhadeff (Part 1)

In this two-part conversation, I talk with Cara Judea Alhadeff—author, most recently, of Zazu Dreams—about the Ecozoic Era, biocentrism, communion with all beings, social permaculture, friction as a source of fertility, the unnatural aspects of natural building, reimagining waste, trading convenience culture for a field of abundance, why “renewable” energy will not save us, how COVID could have paused us, humanure, vaccines and informed consent, a day in a life in a petro-free world—and apricots.

Episode 6: From the Anthropocene to the Ecozoic—with Cara Judea Alhadeff (Part 2)

Episode 7: Connect by Disconnecting—with Stephen Kurczy (Part 1)

In this two-part conversation, I talk with Stephen Kurczy, author of The Quiet Zone, about the fringe groups that have followed the Green Bank Observatory—and its restrictions on wireless communications—to Pocahontas County, West Virginia; Patch Adams’s illusory hospital; why the media pretends that the Quiet Zone is quieter than it is; Internet addiction; whether Zendik Farm was a sex cult; the tyranny of digital “connectivity”; how quiet can breed pathology; and the upside of going offline.

Episode 8: Connect by Disconnecting—with Stephen Kurczy (Part 2)

Episode 9: Backtrack to the Future—with Evan Pritchard

In this episode, I talk with Evan Pritchard, founder of the Center for Algonquin Culture and author of umpteen books, about “Backtrack to the Future: A Seven-Part Solution for the Great American Meltdown.” He reveals: the Native American origins of the Rainbow Gathering; how to meet outdoors even in harsh weather; how to eat—and sweat—for maximal health; how to commute, travel, and transport goods without fossil fuels; how to resist inflammatory rhetoric, using the Way of the Heron; and more!

Episode 10: Live vs. Dead Power—with Gregg Zuman

In this episode, I talk with Gregg Zuman, founder and principal of NYC-based trike-services company Revolution Rickshaws, about his quest to wean urban logistics off fossil fuels. Like Evan Pritchard of the Center for Algonquin Culture (my guest on episode 9), he’s heading back to the future. Listen up to find out why trikes have not yet taken over the world—and how they still might!

Episode 11: How to Trip on Life—with Verdant Nolan (Part 1)

In this two-part conversation, I talk with Verdant Nolan, former Zendik warrior and current President of The Organic Gardener, about how thoughts create results (hint: NOT through the Law of Attraction), what people get wrong about money and selling, the revolving door between outer and inner work, coaching versus criticizing, saving the world versus loving it, growing food in cities, the freedom you find when you allow for uncertainty, and the wonder of tripping on Spaceship Earth.

Episode 12: How to Trip on Life—with Verdant Nolan (Part 2)

Episode 13: Turn Turds into Ass-ets—with Ben Brownlow

In this episode, I talk with Ben Brownlow, of Dancing Rabbit Ecovillage, about our gross national poop product, why poop and water don’t mix (whereas poop and biochar definitely do), why using a flush toilet is like putting a turd in a Lamborghini, how humanure harvesting strengthens collective identity, why processing human poop used to be a profitable business (and how it could be again), and an unfortunate encounter between a drunk Rabbit and an outhouse.

Episode 14: The Beauty of Bar Fights—with Roman McClay (Part 1)

In this vintage two-part conversation, I talk with Roman McClay, author of the epic novel SANCTION, about creating a mind virus, helping sigma males decode themselves, appreciating forest fires and bar fights, embracing the looming failure of the American experiment, and how to declutter the world.

Episode 15: Mourning a Murderer

The day after I reissued Part 1 of my 2019 interview with Roman McClay/Lyndon McLeod, he perpetrated mass murder in Denver. In this episode, I reflect.

Episode 16: Ritual, Community, and Cycles—with Kaitlin Ilya Wolf

In this episode, I talk with Kaitlin Ilya Wolf, Priestess of Cycles, about Earth-based celebrations, connecting with the divine, how village and ritual nurture each other, what it means for the veil to thin at Samhain, the work our ancestors are wanting to do with us, the meaning of initiation, reclaiming transitions through personal ritual, how the Red Tent movement got started, the Red Tent as a place for women to speak the unspeakable, and the power of ritual to bind humans to their land.