Chocolate Church – The Podcast

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Episode 1: Mutual Aid as a Way of Life—with Zev Friedman

In this episode, I interview Zev Friedman, a resident of Earthaven Ecovillage and the founder and creative director of Co-operate WNC. Listen in as we discuss how Americans of European ancestry have lost our indigeneity and how we can (slowly) reclaim it; creating cultural capacity vs. striving for purity; regenerative and relational economics; holistic carbon accounting; disaster cooperativism; judicious deindustrialization; how to transform kudzu from problem to solution; tribal constellations vs. the nuclear family; conflict as a gateway to growth; why the best-laid permaculture plans often fail; and the genius of the regional scale.


Episode 2: Inside Biosphere X—with Acre Qiu (Part 1)

In this two-part conversation, I talk with Acre Qiu—of Biosphere X and Newburgh, New York—about urban homesteading, preparing for the next mass movement, statism, the Dunbar number, hypernormalization in Russia and China, omnigamy, what’s missing from modern life, the dangers inherent in participating in getting what you need to survive (and thrive), temporary hierarchy, keeping guinea pigs, financial independence, gaining sovereignty over one’s time, and the joys and hazards of building a tribe.


Episode 3: Inside Biosphere X—with Acre Qiu (Part 2)


Episode 4: Post-Cult Thrival—with Gerette Buglion

In this episode, I talk with Gerette Buglion, author of An Everyday Cult and co-creator of #igotout, about the number one cult myth, the cult of Trump, the patterns common to how cult members claim their freedom, writing as a form of reckoning, how it feels to step into heresy, and how cult dynamics play out in the wider world.


Episode 5: From the Anthropocene to the Ecozoic—with Cara Judea Alhadeff (Part 1)

In this two-part conversation, I talk with Cara Judea Alhadeff—author, most recently, of Zazu Dreams—about the Ecozoic Era, biocentrism, communion with all beings, social permaculture, friction as a source of fertility, the unnatural aspects of natural building, reimagining waste, trading convenience culture for a field of abundance, why “renewable” energy will not save us, how COVID could have paused us, humanure, vaccines and informed consent, a day in a life in a petro-free world—and apricots.


Episode 6: From the Anthropocene to the Ecozoic—with Cara Judea Alhadeff (Part 2)


Episode 7: Connect by Disconnecting—with Stephen Kurczy (Part 1)

In this two-part conversation, I talk with Stephen Kurczy, author of The Quiet Zone, about the fringe groups that have followed the Green Bank Observatory—and its restrictions on wireless communications—to Pocahontas County, West Virginia; Patch Adams’s illusory hospital; why the media pretends that the Quiet Zone is quieter than it is; Internet addiction; whether Zendik Farm was a sex cult; the tyranny of digital “connectivity”; how quiet can breed pathology; and the upside of going offline.


Episode 8: Connect by Disconnecting—with Stephen Kurczy (Part 2)


Episode 9: Backtrack to the Future—with Evan Pritchard

In this episode, I talk with Evan Pritchard, founder of the Center for Algonquin Culture and author of umpteen books, about “Backtrack to the Future: A Seven-Part Solution for the Great American Meltdown.” He reveals: the Native American origins of the Rainbow Gathering; how to meet outdoors even in harsh weather; how to eat—and sweat—for maximal health; how to commute, travel, and transport goods without fossil fuels; how to resist inflammatory rhetoric, using the Way of the Heron; and more!